Fuck Mike Pence.

So, let me say this about Mike Pence, current Vice President of the United States.

He’s a complete dirtbag.

He is woman-hating, closet-case gay persecutor who’s behind the State Department denying visas to gay men fleeing murder in Chechnya, a misery-encourager, a shit-sack of a Xian.  (Do NOT “no-true-Scotsman” me or I will fuck you up.  I have a law degree and I know how to  use it.)  He


as easily as you or I blink our eyes, and he — this is pretty creepy — won’t have a meal alone with a woman and he calls his own wife “Mother,” (and I’m not a woman normally given to judging anyone else’s kinks, but, eweeewww.)  At exactly the point where

“>The Handmaid’s Tale

begins and City of Refuge takes off, that’s where Mike Pence orgasms.  And Mike Pence is in so deep into the Trump administration’s lies about Russia and their Russian coverup that you can’t see the top of his short-cut white hair.

Recently, a lovely young Witch of my acquaintance put up a post on FB that said, essentially, “Don’t get too happy about Trump going down; Pence is pretty bad, too.”  And, she’s not wrong, but here’s why she’s wrong:

Our brilliant founders set up a clear line of succession.  Right now, that line goes like this:  It’s turtles, all the way down.  Seriously, short of Trump hanging on for two years, and the Dems (who have the world’s greatest gift for pulling defeat from the jaws of victory) winning the House, thereby making Nancy Pelosi Speaker in 2018, it’s just turtles as far down as you can see.  From Pence, we go (as we have never gone before) to Paul Ryan, Orin Hatch, Exxon’s own Rex Tillerson, etc., etc., etc.  There’s nothing pretty there, no matter how carefully you turn over the rocks.

Does that mean that we should stop working to remove Trump (via impeachment, Amendment 25, or other means) from office?

No.  No it does not.  We need to get Donald Trump the fuck out of the White House, as soon as we possibly can.

But, but, but, that will put Mike Pence in the WH!  Or, even if we #impeachPencefirst, it will put another equally odious member of the Patriarchy in charge!

Yes.  Yes it will.  It’s a shame that liberals can’t bother to vote in midterm elections, but, yes, getting rid of Trump is not anything like our end game.

But (and here I go, I’m starting a hashtag) #evenPence isn’t as in love with nuclear war as is Trump.  #evenPence won’t bring all his relatives into the WH to sell visas to the Chinese and to hawk online pink-beige sleeveless dresses made by slave-labor in China.  And not having America turned completely into a marketing scheme for grifters is a good thing.  #evenPence won’t whip up rallies of white supremacists to go out and burn crosses, firebomb schools, beat up protestors.  He’ll be more subtle, and in some ways more dangerous, but he won’t be as much “chaotic evil” as is Trump.

As Ms. Whatsit9 reminds me, Hillary Clinton kept suggesting that, whatever we face, what we need to do is to:  “Do all the good you can, by all the means you can, in all the ways you can, in all the places you can, at all the times you can, to all the people you can, as long as ever you can.”  That translates into another of Ms.Whatsit9’s sayings:  Just do the next right thing.

Yes, Pence is bad.  But that is not an argument for leaving Tump in place.  Unseating Trump is a good thing and it will send a good message to future (Goddess guard us) Trumps.  Once Trump is gone, then, yes, we’ll have to deal with Pence, or Ryan, or Hatch, or Tillerson, or whichever monster is next in line.  We’ll persist.  We’ll slay the next dragon, and the one after that, and the next one, too.

Because that is who we are and that is what we do.

But don’t throw a moron like Mike Pence up as a shield to protect Donald Trump.


14 responses to “Fuck Mike Pence.

  1. Respecty, “The Harder They Come(, the harder they fall)”‎ ;Jimmy Cliff….war cry Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: hecatedemeter‎Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 5:35 AMTo: cynrn1st@gmail.comReply To: hecatedemeterSubject: [New post] Fuck Mike Pence. He’d Better Hope He Never Gets in the Line of My Sights.

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    Hecate Demeter posted: ”

    So, let me say this about Mike Pence, current Vice President of the United States.

    He’s a complete dirtbag.

    He is woman-hating, closet-case gay persecutor who’s behind the State Department denying visas to gay men fleeing murder in Chechnya, a misery-“

  2. Thank you. That actually makes me feel better … I was already obsessing over Prez Pence and assuming it was worse. But, you’re absolutely on-target that what legally follows Trump’s removal from office doesn’t negate the necessity of the latter.

  3. He’s a piece of shit.

  4. Constance Tippett Chandler

    He is the most whiny, condescending piece of crap I have ever seen lie on TV.

  5. I have a question about our workings- are we going to ask/work for/petition the Universe for an ideal candidate? I understand the battle is for America, but at what point do we declare victory? When Trump is out of office, are we done or will we reform our work for other goals? Today’s post makes me think there will never be a shortage of problems.

    • I think that’s probably true. We have a choice: defend our rights or capitulate. I’m not ready to admit defeat. I have been fighting this battle since I was 6 years old and I am now 66.

    • Free Dragon, I’ve wondered that, too. Dion Fortune’s work ended when it was clear that Britain was winning WWII. I’m not sure that we’ll have any such clear demarcation. I can only trust that the Powers, and Spirits, and Beings of this landbase will tell us when it’s time to change course. Until then, I’m guided by them and Hecate and Columbia.

  6. I could not imagine my life without you. Kick it down. Burn it up. Dance on the ashes.

  7. As always, thank you for your clarity of perspective and direction.

  8. Yes! Yes! Yes!.

  9. Well said. It just means the battle will continue, perhaps for a long time, before it is time to celebrate. I have come to understand that achieving social justice takes time, and that each generation has to continue the battle to prevent the destruction of human rights and ultimately, the planet. In the meantime, we can still feel some relief with each step forward in our ultimate war against vile patriarchy. We have no choice. Time is running out.

  10. Mary Schnibben

    Thank you! My sig other and I were debating that the other night…his reasons for not impeaching Dump were the ones above: look who’s behind him in line, more of lthe same, etc., etc.
    I agree 100% that Dump must go, regardless of who succeeds him. Slay those dragons!

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